"mcseanerson" (mcseanerson)
06/11/2014 at 13:53 • Filed to: None
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Z06 convertible automatic or 3 door Fiesta ST with a tune.
Price is no issue. Which would you drive.
PatBateman
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 13:54 |
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I'm taking the blue pill, thanks.
CalzoneGolem
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 13:55 |
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Neither.
Brian Silvestro
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 13:55 |
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I was under the impression that price was an issue in the last post. This clearly changes everything.
The Real Dacia Sandero
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 13:56 |
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FieSTa please. All black of course.
Mustafaluigi
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 13:57 |
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Honestly after driving both, I would pick the RWD Auto. To me a sporty car with good power is awesome but nothing is worse than when you try and do a hard launch and the front wheels just let out . Or you take a hard turn and try and power out and understeer city. At least with a RWD car you can have some sideways fun. They way things are nowadays just keep it in Manual mode and click your own gears.
Jayhawk Jake
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 13:57 |
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That's a stupid comparison. Everyone will pick the Z06
Here's some better options:
Fiesta ST manual or BRZ Automatic? GTI Manual or Mustang GT automatic?
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mcseanerson
> Jayhawk Jake
06/11/2014 at 13:58 |
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It's not stupid and not everyone would. I personally would take the FieSTa.
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mcseanerson
> Mustafaluigi
06/11/2014 at 13:59 |
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A good FWD car can rotate too.
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mcseanerson
> Brian Silvestro
06/11/2014 at 14:00 |
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They're not really related posts. This is just how I played it in my mind.
Party-vi
> Jayhawk Jake
06/11/2014 at 14:02 |
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You can't compare a 220hp FWD manual car to a 400hp RWD auto car, but your Fiesta/BR-Z comparison is pretty much perfect.
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Party-vi
> Mustafaluigi
06/11/2014 at 14:03 |
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Manual mode is for tossers and sheep shaggers.
Mattbob
> Jayhawk Jake
06/11/2014 at 14:03 |
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BRZ automatic, or the GTI manual.
PARTS+ACCESSORIES
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 14:05 |
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Owned both flavors. Front drive, manual. All day. Feel like I was massively missing out for driving the former.
feather-throttle-not-hair
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 14:05 |
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I would have a hard time not going for the car that costs twice as much. But if we keep things under say...40k I think I'd choose fwd mt most of the time. I really truly lust after an integra R, but I'd rock a Ford ST over an auto mustang as well.
Given the choice though, I'd mustang manual in a second over ford STing it up.
BrtStlnd
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 14:06 |
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HMMMM LET ME THINK.
Milky
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 14:14 |
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How do people make it through winter w/o the ability to drift? Also if price really is no issue, we'll all choose auto (dual clutch) because well, thats all there is in super cars (vette & viper not withstanding).
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mcseanerson
> Milky
06/11/2014 at 14:16 |
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Not true on everyone would choose auto anything if price was not an issue. Any car I want price is no issue it's either a new Z/28 or something old and awesome.
BadMotorScooter
> Jayhawk Jake
06/11/2014 at 14:19 |
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Tjats why I mentioned the 458. It does depend on the car. Town Car or Abarth? Z06 auto or anything FWD equals Z06.
FRS auto or ST / GTI manual is a better choice.
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Milky
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 14:24 |
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Really? The Z28. Thats the one new car when price is no issue.
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mcseanerson
> Milky
06/11/2014 at 14:31 |
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Yep. I like supercars but I don't love them. The Z/28 is more of an everyman's supercar and is the best way to drive the LS7, a 427 cubic inch small block.
CAcoalminer
> Milky
06/11/2014 at 14:42 |
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This photo is lovely. Thank you for sharing.
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Jayhawk Jake
> BadMotorScooter
06/11/2014 at 14:50 |
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Town car or abarth is still a poor comparison, because the Town Car is a piece of junk, RWD or not. If we are comparing two similarly priced, similar classed cars it's a little more interesting. Of course even then it ends up coming down to preference, as I prefer cheap hatchbacks to cheap coupes.
I like RWD as much as the next guy, but I think people get hung up on it for no reason. I've never owned one so I don't know for sure, but I doubt people are sliding around with their tail end out often enough for it to matter. It's always seemed like a silly thing to complain about, FWD is still fun and for the majority of time when you're just commuting it makes little to no difference which wheels are powered, so why bother making a fuss over it? Manual versus Auto affects the car every single time you are in it, so I will always take the manual option if the cars are similar enough.
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Jayhawk Jake
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 14:51 |
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No you wouldn't. If someone had both sets of keys and said 'which do you want?' you'd take the Z06. You'd be an idiot not to.
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Jayhawk Jake
> Party-vi
06/11/2014 at 14:54 |
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It's close to perfect, but it still will come down to personal preference. I'd rather have a hatchback than a tiny coupe, so I'd pick the Fiesta, manual or not.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think powertrain configuration matters much at all, transmission choice, driving dynamics, appearance, etc all matter more.
If we made up a hypothetical RWD Fiesta ST that was only available with automatic then we'd have a good comparison. Maybe make it a little more interesting, the hypothetical auto FiST has 30 hp and 30 lb ft of torque more than the manual stock FiST, and if you try to tune the manual one it will literally explode and you'll have to ride a bicycle to work.
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Jayhawk Jake
> Milky
06/11/2014 at 14:55 |
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The Audi R8 would like a word with you if price is no issue.
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mcseanerson
> Jayhawk Jake
06/11/2014 at 14:56 |
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I was trying to be as favorable as possible to the rwd auto camp as possible and that's why I picked the Z06. To make it even less purists friendly I chose the convertible. At the end of the day I typically like small light cars better though, especially ones lacking in power. I say this as a GM guy. I love GM and would love a Z06 but at the end of the day I'd want the one that would make smile harder and more often. That's the Fiesta.
The more times I've had this debate the more I realize some people just don't like small motors and don't understand the people who do. I understand it because I like the big motors too but the little ones make me smile more.
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Jayhawk Jake
> Mustafaluigi
06/11/2014 at 14:56 |
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My FWD manual car can get sideways. It can't sustain it, but it'll swing it's butt around
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Party-vi
> Jayhawk Jake
06/11/2014 at 14:59 |
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In that case I'd still take the manual - I can't STAND the automatic in my E46. It's miserable, even when compared to the boat anchor Peugeot transmission in my old Cherokee.
MonkeePuzzle
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 15:06 |
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the fiesta, easy
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Jayhawk Jake
> Mattbob
06/11/2014 at 15:07 |
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GTI, hands down
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Jayhawk Jake
> Party-vi
06/11/2014 at 15:30 |
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I would too.
How about in a big boat of a cruiser? Say a Mercedes S-Class (sedan). Would you take a manual FWD S-Class over a RWD automatic?
If it's a light, small, fun car I'm taking manual every time. A big luxury cruiser? I'll take the auto.
langadamd
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 16:02 |
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I'll row my own, please.
Yeah Nah It's Rowan
> mcseanerson
06/11/2014 at 16:13 |
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Fiesta without a doubt. Insert twisty roads and loose surfaces, so much more fun to drive.
An auto Vette would be ok if i want launch quick off the line, and keep going fast in a straight line, but if i really want to do that i'll get on a flight to where i can drive the Fiesta on the twisties.
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mcseanerson
> Yeah Nah It's Rowan
06/11/2014 at 16:43 |
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This guy gets it. On real b-roads, especially ones with a little gravel, the Z06 is too much. A tiny hot hatch is made for that kind of stuff.
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Yeah Nah It's Rowan
> mcseanerson
06/12/2014 at 08:51 |
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To be honest, I think the comparison sets apart the types of drivers that our fellow commentators are (muchos respect to all) and the type of driving they enjoy most, more than it decides which car is a better choice.
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mcseanerson
> Yeah Nah It's Rowan
06/12/2014 at 09:07 |
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Yeah I think so too. I pretty much figured it would. I have some buddies who just don't get why I'd rather have a lighter car than a heavier high horsepower car. I get why they like the big power stuff but I just know I'd not get to enjoy it as often as I would the little stuff.